Error messages in Ducth

[jodleren]

Hello all

I am working with a GreCon saw, which gives these errors:

_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)

What do they mean, especially the first one?

My guess is, that the Dallas DS1230 chips (with battery = cellen?) are
dead.
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

Can anyone help me here?

Feel free to reply here, and my email sonnich /at/ hot /dot/ ee

Sorry for crossposting, but my dutch is a bit rusty ;-)

Dank U vel
Sonnich
[phone]

[Rene]

Post by jodleren
Hello all
_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)

right.

Post by jodleren
What do they mean, especially the first one?
My guess is, that the Dallas DS1230 chips (with battery = cellen?) are
dead.
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

It means "check". You should check the batteries, indeed they are the
cellen (the word is not used that often for batteries, when, it is most
often for rechargable ones).

Yours sincerely,
Rene

[Mdmeenken]

Post by Rene

Post by jodleren
Hello all
_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)

right.

Post by jodleren
What do they mean, especially the first one?
My guess is, that the Dallas DS1230 chips (with battery = cellen?) are
dead.
The word Nazien I dont get at all.,

and nazien means "check"

Post by Rene
It means "check". You should check the batteries, indeed they are the
cellen (the word is not used that often for batteries, when, it is most
often for rechargable ones).
Yours sincerely,
Rene

[jodleren]

Post by Rene

Post by jodleren
Hello all
_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)

right.

Post by jodleren
What do they mean, especially the first one?
My guess is, that the Dallas DS1230 chips (with battery = cellen?) are
dead.
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

It means "check". You should check the batteries, indeed they are the
cellen (the word is not used that often for batteries, when, it is most
often for rechargable ones).
Yours sincerely,
Rene

Ok. As for computer and other stuff with batteries that are usually
rechargeable. These are in the chip, but still meant to live for 10
years. They are however 17 years :)

I just realised that another part of the text means something too

Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder

Fail in cell measuring, enterence and the last I dont get. So Cellen
could be those parts?

WBR
Sonnich

[wugi]

Post by jodleren

Post by Rene

Post by jodleren
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

na-zien: look after

Post by jodleren

Post by Rene
It means "check". You should check the batteries, indeed they are the
cellen (the word is not used that often for batteries, when, it is
most often for rechargable ones).

I just realised that another part of the text means something too
Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder

Sorteerder I suppose, from sorteren, to sort.

Post by jodleren
Fail in cell measuring, enterence and the last I dont get. So Cellen
could be those parts?

Failure at cell measuring (not clear if of, or by, cell, I'd guess the
former)
ditto at cell entrance, and cell sorter (whatever that means)

guido goegel wugi

[J.H.Boersema]

Post by wugi

Post by jodleren

Post by Rene

Post by jodleren
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

na-zien: look after

Post by jodleren

Post by Rene
It means "check". You should check the batteries, indeed they are the
cellen (the word is not used that often for batteries, when, it is
most often for rechargable ones).

I just realised that another part of the text means something too
Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder

Sorteerder I suppose, from sorteren, to sort.

Sorteerder means "the thing that does sorting" and sorting
means 'thick bricks here, small bricks there," etc etc etc.

Opmeting means "measuring," probably a distance.
The thickness of the table "opmeten."

Fout means "error," "mistake."
Ingang means "entrance," can also be used for electronics signal.
The cable connecter is the "ingang" for the signal.

Cel is a word not much used in Holland fwik.
The first thing coming to mind is a box of a matrix ?
Terrorism cel ? Cel is also the word for a prison compartment (cel).
Cel is not used for batteries that I ever heard in the Netherlands.
It might refer to something special electronics (jargon ?).
The word cel is also part of the word for solar-panels in Dutch:
zonne-cellen. As such it refers to a single bit of a matrix I guess.
So maybe it has to do with a single bit out of something, for example
# and then 1st row, 3rd bit: 'cel.' (????)

The word 'cel' could also be excess talk, or refer to its own chip
register into which an error was detected ?! ?!

Post by wugi

Post by jodleren
Fail in cell measuring, enterence and the last I dont get. So Cellen
could be those parts?

Failure at cell measuring (not clear if of, or by, cell, I'd guess the
former)
ditto at cell entrance, and cell sorter (whatever that means)

[KE]

Post by jodleren
Hello all
_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)
What do they mean, especially the first one?

nazien = look after, check, examine
herstarten = restart

Greatings from the Netherlands,
Klaas

[Rob]

Post by jodleren
Hello all
_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)
What do they mean, especially the first one?
My guess is, that the Dallas DS1230 chips (with battery = cellen?) are
dead.
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

I think the above texts already are a result of translating from
another language, and they also look more like Flemish than Dutch.
I don't think "cellen nazien" would normally be used by a native
Dutch speaker, they would more likely use "controleer batterij"
or similar.

"cellen" could refer to something completely different, though.

[jodleren]

Post by Rob

Post by jodleren
Hello all
_ cellen nazien
_ heropstarten (... restart, right?)
What do they mean, especially the first one?
My guess is, that the Dallas DS1230 chips (with battery = cellen?) are
dead.
The word Nazien I dont get at all.

I think the above texts already are a result of translating from
another language, and they also look more like Flemish than Dutch.
I don't think "cellen nazien" would normally be used by a native
Dutch speaker, they would more likely use "controleer batterij"
or similar.
"cellen" could refer to something completely different, though.

That is what I wonder. Machines in a factory are called "cells", and
the GreCon Kapzaag in a 3 stage machine. Therefore I wonder that the
text before "cellen nazien" is:

Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder

That would explain something. The entire machine does not work.

The screen states clearly that the machine is made in France. Maybe
that helps?

WBR
Sonnich

[Rob]

Post by jodleren

Post by Rob
"cellen" could refer to something completely different, though.

That is what I wonder. Machines in a factory are called "cells", and
the GreCon Kapzaag in a 3 stage machine. Therefore I wonder that the
Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder
That would explain something. The entire machine does not work.
The screen states clearly that the machine is made in France. Maybe
that helps?

Yes, it probably indicates that the original language was French and
it was translated to "Dutch" by someone from Belgium.
The Dutch spoken in Belgium is actually Flemish, and it has quite
different idiom in cases like this.

It could be helpful when you can set the language to French and then
work from that. Or ask in nl.doe-het-zelf where there often are
readers from Belgium and the people are more familiar with machines
like this.

[jodleren]

Post by Rob

Post by jodleren

Post by Rob
"cellen" could refer to something completely different, though.

That is what I wonder. Machines in a factory are called "cells", and
the GreCon Kapzaag in a 3 stage machine. Therefore I wonder that the
Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder
That would explain something. The entire machine does not work.
The screen states clearly that the machine is made in France. Maybe
that helps?

Yes, it probably indicates that the original language was French and
it was translated to "Dutch" by someone from Belgium.
The Dutch spoken in Belgium is actually Flemish, and it has quite
different idiom in cases like this.
It could be helpful when you can set the language to French and then
work from that.   Or ask in nl.doe-het-zelf where there often are
readers from Belgium and the people are more familiar with machines
like this.

Hi all!

I get it now. Unfortunately the machine is a single language only. I
need to reprogram 4 eproms to get another language :)
The machine is 3-state, in feed, sav, and belt which dumps peices in
boxes according to their length.

WBR & Grootjes
Sonnich

[Piet Beertema]

Post by jodleren
The machine is 3-state, in feed, sav, and belt which dumps peices
in boxes according to their length.

In that case it's far more likely that 'cell' stands for
'(light) sensor'.

-p

[jodleren]

Post by Piet Beertema

Post by jodleren
The machine is 3-state, in feed, sav, and belt which dumps peices
in boxes according to their length.

In that case it's far more likely that 'cell' stands for
'(light) sensor'.

That would really make sense. The machine should read marks on the
wood, but fails, and the dumping/sorting sensors sometimes never work.

I will take a look at that

Thanks
Sonnich

[Piet Beertema]

The machine should read marks on the wood, but fails,
and the dumping/sorting sensors sometimes never work.

"sometimes never" is a contradiction. ;-)

-p

[Sander Nijdam]

Post by jodleren
That is what I wonder. Machines in a factory are called "cells", and
the GreCon Kapzaag in a 3 stage machine. Therefore I wonder that the

I think the Dutch 'cellen' is (nearly) equal to the English 'cells'.
Both can be used for: batteries, excel cells, prison cells, biological
cells and much more.

Post by jodleren
Fout Cel Opmeting
Fout Cel Ingang
Fout Cel Sorteeeder

Failure Cell Measurement / Input (or entrance) / Sorter (misspelled in
Dutch)

Sander...